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Wednesday, April 06, 2005

Need for a suit

Moot court: role-play, dress-up, adrenaline, after-buzz, looks good on CV, what more could a law student ask for? Well, a huge yellow caution sign along the lines of the following might be useful:-

Warning: Legal minds at play
For safety reasons, a suit
is highly recommended.


Shirt and tie just doesn't cut it I'm afraid. I felt like a duck out of water in the same way as an engineer without an RPN calculator, a geek without Unixes, or a college student without p2p filesharing programs might. Now, where's a good place in Melbourne for a student (read: little money) to buy a suit from?

7 Comments:

Blogger sarni said...

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4:52 pm

 
Blogger sarni said...

Don't know if this sounds stupid, but is there any way you can borrow a suit from a friend or relative who is around your size? It's just that if you buy a cheap suit in a hurry, then you are going to be wearing this cheap suit for awhile - probably to your job interviews etc. Maybe it's better to save a bit more money and wait until you've got the time to shop around and find a suit that hangs well on you, which is of relatively good quality/material etc.

I'm not suggesting anything I haven't tried - when I mooted, I borrowed my mum's clothing.

Good luck with the moots, btw. You'll learn way more doing those than taking Legal Process.

4:54 pm

 
Blogger MT said...

Sarni, it doesn't sound stupid at all. I would borrow a suit if I could. That big said, most of my close friends do engineering, and are, as far as I can tell, suitless. As for relatives, I don't think even my dad has a suit.

I better clarify. It's not that I have no money, but rather that I'm reluctant to spend it, keeping in mind that it has to last me the whole year. I've still got around $9000 or so from the vacation period sitting in my account, but given that I spent a spot over $2000 last semester (mostly on textbooks, rent, food and the Adelaide trip) I thought I'd better start being more careful.

The major sticking point is that I've got no idea what sort of price range I'm looking at....

6:50 am

 
Blogger Evan said...

Price range? Roger David does suits for $200. They aren't bad, but don't expect to be made to feel like a king.

Myer will treat you with more respect, but pay between $200-$400.

I have a friend that got married in a $1200 suit from a men's boutique. Completely fitted to him (said it felt like wearing boardshorts - comfy!). They make you feel like a bigshot because they chase after you and call you "sir" etc.

IANAL, so perhaps nothing less than the $1200 job would do. But RD suits are all right (I am sure lawyers drive Toyota's too).

6:56 am

 
Blogger OLS said...

From one who has been in court a few times - a Roger David suit will do you fine. Most of my court gear is not expensive, it's how you put it together that matters.

Just make sure that it fits you properly - ie it's comfortable when you're sitting and that you can close it when you stand up to make your argument. I would avoid double breasted suits if I was you, they tend to bunch when sitting.

And of course, don't forget that lawyers rarely wear colours - black, navy and dark grey. Don't go for pinstripes either - they make guys look like tools. Or share traders. Neither of which is good in court. ;o)

If you want to spend some money on looking spic, I'd spend it on a really nice shirt and tie. Hardly anyone notices your suit anyway unless it's really bad - but they will notice your suit and tie.

And for any chicks that are reading - the female equivalent is still a suit, preferably with skirt, heels and stockings.

- OLS

12:52 pm

 
Blogger OLS said...

Well, I asked one of my colleagues and got the definitive answer on suits.

1. Go somewhere where they will fit the suit - brand matters less than having it fitted to you properly.

2. It should cost $500 to $600 - he gave me a list of places, but they are all up here in Qld so probably not much help to you.

3. Get a polyester/wool blend as it will wear longer

4. Get a 2 trouser suit (same reason)

5. Don't get double breasted unless you're really overweight. Otherwise you'll be undoing it and doing it up every time you stand/sit in court and it doesn't look good.

6. Make sure it's comfortable - you should be able to put the fist of the opposite hand in each arm pit and you should be able to swing your arms back and forth in it.

7. Make sure the shoulders aren't too wide for you - otherwise it'll look great for a little while, but the shoulder pads will droop after some wear and you'll look like you've borrowed someone elses suit.

8. The hems of the trousers should touch the floor at the heel when you're standing barefoot and the sleeves of the jacket should cover your wrists but not reach the thumb.

Hopefully this might help.

- OLS

5:14 pm

 
Blogger MT said...

Thank you OLS, evan. I was speaking to my housemate about getting a suit, and he suggested I buy it when I go visiting Hong Kong and China mid-year. I'm tempted, since I remember seeing some really nice stuff over there for great prices. And now that I've been knocked out of the mooting competition, the urgency is no longer an issue.

Still, I have to buy a suit sooner or later, and all this advice will come in mighty useful then.

OLS, regarding the nice shirt and tie, is lack of colour still the legal profession norm? White shirt and black/navy tie?

10:39 pm

 

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